HD Enabling Fee--what do you get for it?

jdmart

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Someone interested in Dish asked me what they get for the enabling fee if they decided not to keep the HD package after 6 months. I understand the enabling fee allows OTA HD and HD Premiums you subscribe to. What about channels that are in your base package such as TNT; are they mirrored in HD or are they in SD only?
 
Someone interested in Dish asked me what they get for the enabling fee if they decided not to keep the HD package after 6 months. I understand the enabling fee allows OTA HD and HD Premiums you subscribe to. What about channels that are in your base package such as TNT; are they mirrored in HD or are they in SD only?

No, you don't get TNT or the others. Like you said, you just get the Locals HD and Premium channels if you subscribe to them.
 
No, you don't get TNT or the others. Like you said, you just get the Locals HD and Premium channels if you subscribe to them.

taken from the 622 marketing slick:

"Additional authorization may be required before high definition programming and/or off-air digital broadcasts can be viewed; additional fees may apply."


That is what the enabling fee is for....allowing your to recieve digital OTA....

This fee does not exist on the 942
 
Someone interested in Dish asked me what they get for the enabling fee if they decided not to keep the HD package after 6 months. I understand the enabling fee allows OTA HD and HD Premiums you subscribe to. What about channels that are in your base package such as TNT; are they mirrored in HD or are they in SD only?

OTA and Premium HD channels is all you will get. All the channels in the HD package will be shut off, it does not matter if you have the sd version.
 
As I understand it, without an HD programming package and without the "enabling fee", your 622/722 is functionally equivalent to ... a brick (although not quite as sturdy or useful). You can't record anything, or even receive anything, without an HD package or the enabling fee. An SD programming package won't do it alone. You need that enabling fee to allow even SD to function.

That is my understanding, after I mercilessly drilled multiple CSRs with those questions when I was contemplating upgrading to the 722.

In other words: It's a way to get more money out of you. I guess it's Dishes way of saying, "If you don't want HD, get a 522, and give us back the 722 to give to someone else who wants HD (or pay our enabling fee)". That logic might almost work, except I doubt they'll let you just trade in your 722 for a 522 without some other penalty fee being involved. Subscribing to only HD locals without some other HD package probably doesn't generate enough revenue for their liking. The enabling fee boosts their revenue.

Dish probably says it like this: "If you want a 722, it will cost you <enabling fee> per month. If you add HD programming, we waive the enabling fee." That sounds almost palatable, until you look at it closely and discover what you're really buying into.
 
Back when the 622 was introduced, you could activate without HD and without the enabling fee. Doing so would disable the OTA tuner, giving you in essence a 522 with a lot more space for SD recordings.

That option is no longer available

It's probably most "palatable" as haertig said, to look at it as a $6-per-tuner access fee, plus the $6 dvr fee. The base monthly cost of the box is $24. Actually $30 if you count the "access fee" you're hit with if you don't sub a base package. You can get $6 waived by subbing an "America's Top" or other package, $6 by connecting a phone line, $6 by subbing HD, and another $6 if it's your only receiver. And waive another $4 by subbing the DVR Advantage.

Since I own my box, I feel $30 per month for basic functionality before I even add what I'm paying for programming is quite ridiculous. That's a lot of nickels and dimes.
 
It would be in Dish's best interest if "everyone would get an HD receiver" because they could free up a lot of bandwidth by converting EVERYTHING to MPEG-4.
 
The dealers get a commission for selling HD, so the $6 fee keeps everyone honest!
Honest is charging a fee ,because one choses not to have a more expensive service no longer? Your kidding? When I dropped Dish HD,and they told me there would be a fee anyway,I said ok ,I'll trade my 622 in for a standard DVR then ,They said ok ,For $119.They should swap that with no question. But they won't because it makes them more money to charge you fees.Paying to downgrade is the dumbest and most dishonest .$5 to remove a premium package. Com'om!!! A customer that can't afford a package no longer,Dish really likes to put the screws to them.
 
If they did not have the enabeling fee, then everyone would get an HD receiver incase they decided to buy an HD Television in the future.

The dealers get a commission for selling HD, so the $6 fee keeps everyone honest!

My VIP211/411 was purchased on EBay. I receive locals in HD via satellite and OTA. I get Big 10 and the TEST channel in HD. My area has no RSN in HD (NESN) so I can't comment there.

I do not subscribe to any of the HD packages and do not pay an Enabling Fee.
 
Someone interested in Dish asked me what they get for the enabling fee if they decided not to keep the HD package after 6 months. I understand the enabling fee allows OTA HD and HD Premiums you subscribe to. What about channels that are in your base package such as TNT; are they mirrored in HD or are they in SD only?

My 6 mos. of free HD is up next month. A rep told me last week that if I don't want the HD pkg. it will cost me $6/mo. for the fee. However, I was under the impression that I would receive the HD chs. I pay for like HBO. The rep then told me that ALL my chs. will only be in SD if I drop the $20/mo. fee.

Am I right or wrong? I really don't like any of the HD chs. I don't subscribe to.
 
No, you don't get TNT or the others. Like you said, you just get the Locals HD and Premium channels if you subscribe to them.

Does that mean I can drop the HD pkg. & still watch HBO & Nat'l Geographic in HD as I pay for both of them:confused:?
 

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