HBO/Cinemax Takedown

I'm not in favor of it, but if those are the new rules of the game, you lose if you can't play by them. In a world where Comcast doesn't own NBC, where AT&T doesn't own DirecTV/Turner/HBO, this isn't a problem. But they do. That, plus the spectrum deal and mergers/acquisitions Charlie has poisoned, Dish's chickens are coming home to roost.
Defeatist attitude, while the consumers end up with the overpriced, rotten eggs.
 
I suspect this is going to be long. Possibly permanent. I don’t think ATT -WANTS- Dish to carry HBO. The lost revenue is an investment in crushing Dish. And perhaps some others.

THEN watch what happens to their rates!


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there rates will skyrocket. they want to crush dish when they can't even produce a dvr that's not even in the 21st century :D. i'll loose HBO and keep my hopper i can buy 4k blu rays wich look better than coming from a sat broadcast
 
I'll sign up for HBO Now to hold us over, but my opinion of AT&T has fallen to a new low over this. Unfortunately, I have recently renewed my AT&T Fiber contract, and the best alternative is Spectrum anyway.

Slightly off topic, but since people are talking about dumping AT&T services, I switched to Cricket for wireless in September, but they are still AT&T at the end of the day. I might consider a Verizon-based prepaid wireless service if I could find one with the right mix of features and price. Most of the one's I've looked at either lack wi-fi calling or cost too much for what you get. T-Mobile will be an option once they improve their rural coverage, but that is still years off in practical terms. We don't need unlimited. 3-5GB/month of usable data per line (don't need 100Mbps. the 8Mbps we get on Cricket is fine). Wi-Fi calling. $70 per month or less for 2 lines. Anyone have any suggestions?
 
Everyone has excessive fees, one of your main business partners (Comcast) is the worst, Broadcast TV Fee (up to $10.00/mo.), Regional Sports Fee (up to $8.00/mo.) , the X1 $10-20 a month and each extra DVR Box ( slave to the X1) another $10 a month.

That is the main reason I have Vue is the fees, if I still had Comcast it would add roughly $60 ( need 5 boxes) in fees alone a month to my bill which is $10 more then I pay for Vue.

But Atleast with Comcast owning your equipment actually saves you money.

Get your own modem and TiVo and goodbye to fees
 
Actually, T-Mobile has greatly increased coverage the last few months. Over 1,300 new points for their band 71, plus other expansion. They seem to be on a roll.

Do you have, or think you will have a band 71 capable phone in the next year?

With the merger with the accursed Sprint, they will gain access to much spectrum.

And they’re CHEAP. See if they might serve your areas today. Maybe, like I did, with a cheap prepaid SIM.

I am impressed with their expansion.

I am mostly impressed with how my bill is less than half my old ATT bill, for two lines on their 55+ plan, and a prepaid single line plan.


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I'll sign up for HBO Now to hold us over, but my opinion of AT&T has fallen to a new low over this. Unfortunately, I have recently renewed my AT&T Fiber contract, and the best alternative is Spectrum anyway.

Slightly off topic, but since people are talking about dumping AT&T services, I switched to Cricket for wireless in September, but they are still AT&T at the end of the day. I might consider a Verizon-based prepaid wireless service if I could find one with the right mix of features and price. Most of the one's I've looked at either lack wi-fi calling or cost too much for what you get. T-Mobile will be an option once they improve their rural coverage, but that is still years off in practical terms. We don't need unlimited. 3-5GB/month of usable data per line (don't need 100Mbps. the 8Mbps we get on Cricket is fine). Wi-Fi calling. $70 per month or less for 2 lines. Anyone have any suggestions?

Get $20 when you start a phone plan with Google's Project Fi

Great for low data consumption, uses T-mobile, Sprint & US Cellular towers. Wifi calling is flawless, unlimited talk and text for 2 phones is $35 month and $0.01 per mb of data. Bill protection kicks in at 10gb. Been with them since 2016, bill is always under $50.
 
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Apologies. I should have specified that we are iPhone 6S users. We have no plans to switch phones in the near future. We just finished paying them off.
 
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It looks like Verizon Prepaid might be an option. It is less data than we have now with Cricket, but still within our budget, and it has all the features we need. I am not crazy about Verizon either, but they seem a little less evil than AT&T at the moment.
 
It looks like Verizon Prepaid might be an option. It is less data than we have now with Cricket, but still within our budget, and it has all the features we need. I am not crazy about Verizon either, but they seem a little less evil than AT&T at the moment.

You might check out Verizon’s online Visible Mobile service.

Visible | It's Phone Service. In An App.

Unlimited talk text data for $40 a month as long as you have LTE signal and unlocked iPhone. Data is limited to 5Mbps.
 
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You might check out Verizon’s online Visible Mobile service.

Visible | It's Phone Service. In An App.

Unlimited talk text data for $40 a month as long as you have LTE signal and unlocked iPhone. Data is limited to 5Mbps.

Yeah, I looked at them, and a number of other Verizon MVNOs. Wi-Fi calling seems to be missing on many of them. Visible apparently isn't particularly reliable yet. Still working out the kinks, much like Cricket/AIO was when it was first launched.
 
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Absolutely, at no way possible am I for Dish agreeing to cover a set subscriber amount for any premium channel. No content is worth that. I don't care if HBO exclusively carried the Superbowl, NBA Finals, and World Series. If that's AT&T's game, then take HBO and shove it up your most notorious body cavity.

As pointed out earlier, I believe by Scott, AT&T is essentially practicing in anti-trust practices. Essentially forcing Dish to pay for the free subscribers on AT&T's platform or taking subs away from Dish, knowing that if Dish doesn't have this content the subs will jump ship. As a non-HBO subscriber, all this does is make me vow to never give AT&T my money for HBO or DirecTV. I hope Dish does the right thing and keeps this off. Let AT&T lose money. As for all the "I must have" people. No! You're conditioned to think you must have. It's the same as Apple users who are so stuck in the Apple ecosystem of software that they are willing to buy hardware that becomes substandard each and every year. I will not subsidize HBO for someone who gets it for free on Directv. If Dish chooses to agree, this will be a deal breaker for me. AT&T wants Dish to cover the cost? I say no.
 
Yeah, I looked at them, and a number of other Verizon MVNOs. Wi-Fi calling seems to be missing on many of them. Visible apparently isn't particularly reliable yet. Still working out the kinks, much like Cricket/AIO was when it was first launched.
MintSim is a good T mobile MVNO that is pretty great besides their customer support.
 

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