Have a Good Cable Source?
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Never use rg59, and if you need to go underground there is weather proof rg 6. And use quality fittings and splitters, signal leakage in and out is a bad thing
if going under ground.......
you can save time and money and lots of work by running the cable in conduit.
burried shallow, saves digging conduit provides mechanical protection andgo big on conduit. its easier to pull and if you ever have to upgrade, no digging necessary. just pull new or more cable
you can save time and money and lots of work by running the cable in conduit.
burried shallow, saves digging conduit provides mechanical protection andgo big on conduit. its easier to pull and if you ever have to upgrade, no digging necessary. just pull new or more cable
RG59 isn't a consideration. Shouldn't need anything underground - I don't think we'll need a pole mount. I just want to get the interior runs pulled and ready to go with all home runs back to a central point. The last thing I want is for the Dish tech to try and reuse the current who knows how old (probably 1980s) RG59 for the Joeys. The home was built in '68 and still has four prong phone plugs with adapters.
Wow. Are you sure you got that build date right? Ah... I see you are probably right since the RJ11 became widespread in the '70s.
Wonder why don't see much RG11 around now days other than harder to work with!
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I don't remember ever working with RG11. But I imagine that, in addition to being stiff as hell, it's also more expensive.
I have never worked with it but have seen it at the store. I bet some installers have used it for super long runs.
Monoprice is always a good source for all things cable.
http://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=15402
500 ft for $50 delivered.
http://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=15402
500 ft for $50 delivered.
Some of my thoughts about RG cable. RG-11 would be a gross overkill for home use. The recommended RG-6 from Monoprice is copper clad steel, not a solid copper center, if that matters or not to you. It's also quad shield, which is more difficult to work with and not needed for most home use.
Also as I don't recommend RG-59, it will work just as well as RG-6 for home use. It will be the Dish installer that will tell you that you need RG-6 rated at 3 gig.
Just my 2 cents guys.
Also as I don't recommend RG-59, it will work just as well as RG-6 for home use. It will be the Dish installer that will tell you that you need RG-6 rated at 3 gig.
Just my 2 cents guys.
So, RG11 is overkill, RG6 is not needed, and RG59 you don't recommend. What do you recommend?
Maybe re-read. He is saying quad shield is not needed in most cases.
So, all RG6 is not quad shield? I'm not being argumentative, I'm just not knowledgeable about cable. I'm just curious what he recommends. He says he doesn't recommend RG59, but that it works just as well as RG6.
No, not all RG6 is quad shield. I would recommend RG6 with a solid copper conductor.
Good quality RG59 usually works just as good as RG6 for a Joey.
RG-59 Will work just as good as 6 in home installations. It's the cable and satellite companies that tell you that you need 6 sweep rated at 3 gig. Half my home is wired with RG-6 that is 25 + years old. Not 3 gig rated. Why did I use 6? Cause it was free at the time. Back then most homes were wired with 59.
I would recommend RG-6 with a solid copper center conductor. No quad. Just to go with the flow. And no arguments from the installer.
I would recommend RG-6 with a solid copper center conductor. No quad. Just to go with the flow. And no arguments from the installer.
Before I upgraded from VIP722 to the H1, I ran several hundred feet of 3 GHz RG6 Quad Shield solid copper core throughout the house ahead of the installer because we were having blown-in insulation installed in our attic before the upgrade. Due to the information available here at the time I knew what was needed and what equipment would end up where, so I had everything done well before I pulled the trigger on the upgrade. I had everything run for a 2H, 3J system to a central location in the basement where I have a mounting board for the duo node and out to wall plates in each room where each box would be located. I figure I saved the tech about 2 to 3 hours of fishing wire for the install as he only had to terminate the wires at the node and drop the equipment at each location. The installer complained about the quad shield wire saying it was hard to work with and hurt his fingers. Sounds like a minor thing, but if you do these every day I could see your hands getting raw. I like the quad shield though to make sure I don't get interference from other wires and I don't have to install the stuff every day.
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