Yes I knew that there was a thread regarding HD Lite but it seemed to get off topic and didn't really answer the concerns a lot of us have. Seems that the Surfer like to close threads that he considers multiple. Lets face it, in any given forum, especially D* HD, we only have a limited amount of topics to even discuss and I use the term "discuss" loosley. I think maybe vent might be a better way to describe what we have been doing. So I know we need to have forum police, but from this angle it looks like a search and destroy mission for any "related topics". Maybe we want to ask a question about the same thing in a different way. Maybe the thread got off of the original topic and became a conversation between two members. Basically what I am saying is....it shouldn't be viewed as a crime and closed. We as members of this forum generally look at topics by date. What's new today, what can I have input on or get answered or ask. Getting your thread closed is akin to getting flamed for a comment or opinion. So ease up, a duplicate thread won't kill anyone and if you look close in most cases these duplicates are not that at all.