couple 4dtv questions

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6 footer for 4dtv?

sadoun has that 6 foot c band dish for a good price. cadsulfide has a 10 footer but its frozen to the ground (whatever happened to hot water :D) so I really cant wait that long for TV. (still hang on to cad I might upgrade come spring)
anyway would that dish using a polar mount work okay for 4dtv ?
 
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If you live in the central United States, a 6-foot dish "may" be good enough. I would advise a minimum of 8-feet.

If you live on either coast, 8 to 10 should be the minimum. A 6-foot dish on the coast will have trouble receiving the satellite footprint. There's also far less room for alignment error.

Our dish is an 8.5' solid aluminum Birdview and is located in southeast Washington State. It works very well. The 10' Prodelin that a neighbor uses is a lot stronger.
 
I'm currently using a 6' offset Prodelin dish for the 4DTV I sub to on AMC18. Never a problem. Signal and quality in the 70s and that's with a rigged up LNBF designed for a prime focus dish. I never tried my 6' dish to other 4DTV satellites. G15 might have a problem.

The upside with AMC18 services is that all the channels in one place. The downside is the EPG, it only downloads on G15 presently.

Here in NY it works just fine. That frees up my 10' for everything else in the sky.
 
its also on the front...the one on the back is for the VCII board (analog)
the one in the front is for digital
 
4dtv on youtube

since there isnt any could someone put some sample footage of the guide or a few seconds of video to show what the pq is like?
 
My 4DTV gets excellent reception on a 7.5 foot Winegard. -My big 10 footer is reserved for all the HD sports goodies my Pansat 9200 finds for me! :D:up
 
The picture quality on the master feeds look like a DVD if that helps you any.

Here is some info on the 4DTV and guide.

Motorola 4DTV Interactive Program Guide

Here also is a small image of the guide.
 

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I use my stationary 6 footer from Sadoun with my dsr410 from Skyvision to get the package on AMC18. I get consistent reception in the 70s from central florida and never have a loss of service. I get the program guide from AMC18.
 
AMC-18 is very strong without too much adjacent satellite interference. You can get away with a 6' footer there.
I would imagine that Amc-10 and 11 may be ok -maybe with a 6'.
G15 - I would say no way. Escpecially if you are near the east coast and that satellite is low on the horizon. It's not the most powerful bird either. My 7.5' will lock HBO and Max on G1 with a dsr-905 sidecar with signal quality levels anywhere from mid 60's to mid 70's depending on the conditions (TI and weather).
 
definitely similar to dvd. It depends on the bandwidth the broadcaster is giving to the channel.
I have some feeds that look almost "HD" and others that look like some of the garbage on G-25Ku.

For the most part - 4dtv will give you a much better SD pic than any of the pizza dish companies or cable. In fact a couple of my buddies have pizza dish HD and they always boast about the resolution. They were over at my house one night and I had HBO family from G-1 (G15 now) and they thought it was HD. LOL how funny.
So I fired up the old pansat 9200 HD and showed them what master broadcast HD looked like on some of the FTA HD channels.

I am sure they felt like their pizza pans and over compressed pictures looked pretty bad when they got home.
 
definitely similar to dvd. It depends on the bandwidth the broadcaster is giving to the channel.
I have some feeds that look almost "HD" and others that look like some of the garbage on G-25Ku.

For the most part - 4dtv will give you a much better SD pic than any of the pizza dish companies or cable. In fact a couple of my buddies have pizza dish HD and they always boast about the resolution. They were over at my house one night and I had HBO family from G-1 (G15 now) and they thought it was HD. LOL how funny.
So I fired up the old pansat 9200 HD and showed them what master broadcast HD looked like on some of the FTA HD channels.

I am sure they felt like their pizza pans and over compressed pictures looked pretty bad when they got home.


Way to go Truck! :) Pizza subs don't have a clue of how good a 1st generation broadcast master can look SD or HD. If the bandwidth is there digital can be awesome. Pizza and Cable beware you only have HD Lite! :D
 
the pbs feed on amc3 look goodi read on wikipedia 4dtv will be obsolete in a few years as cable providers switch to dvb is this true?
 
wiki is user based and user entry so I could put "analog is coming back" and it would be posted

DVB (PowerVu) is used for alot of channels on cable right now. I dont see DCII going anywhere soon (DCII is the opposite of DVB)
 
6 footer for AMC18 (W5 stuff?) works fine

6 footer on other sats? yeeshh...I have one and it is a pain in the ars to aim for DCII. When I download the maps on mine I go to G5 the TBN mux (which is strong signal) on the Pansat 1500 then swap to the 905 and still have to tweak even more

signals are really low and not always stable....I would get a bigger one if you want to sub to something other than W5
 
ok i plan on having a dish for c and a dish for ku my 4dtv has c in and ku in my c6000 just has sat in. how can i set it up so i can get c and ku on my 4dtv and c and ku on my cs6000 using one cable from each dish?

also i guess they go bad when the battery fails how do i tell from my serial number? can i just put another battery in paraelle instead of desoldring the old one that way when the old one goes the new one will still have juice?
 
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