Converting DVR Recording for Computer

[mobowhunter]

With the external hardrives capabilites of the DVR's - what would be the easiest way to convert saved shows over to a digital format for a computer - or better yet the applicate I am using. Converting the shows over to PSP format?

I have searched the form herer and am at a loss. I was looking at the TiVO unit and they have the TiVOToGo which you just plug and play right off of the HD TiVO unit. I can only hope it would be that easy, but I am guessing it is not.

Thanks for your help and time.

 

[boba]

I don't believe what you want is possible.

 

[Cyclone]

Dish has protected their recordings to keep in the graces of the Networks and the Movie studios in which they do business. So there isn't a way to access the DVR content and convert them over to a PC friendly format.

There is the old "record off of the S-Video" outputs, if you want to do that. But you will have to suffer the hit in picture quality that brings.

 

[Smith P.]

I could believe it possible if we will see not those ppl who asking for free stuff, but those who came here as /dev/null and expalin how this things works.

 

[mobowhunter]

That's what I was afraid off. I cannot believe TiVO gets away with it on using that TiVOToGo functionality - that is really sweet.

I travel pretty often and I was going to convert a few shows over to my PSP to watch on the flights.

Thanks for your input.

 

[Smith P.]

Yeah, look around - there is TiVo Community and TiVo without complains to that, and here is Dish with lawsuits and no DVR community at all.
Feel the difference ?!

 

[cparker]

Taking the recordings off of DVR and putting them onto a computer in a format readable by the computer would break all kinds DRM and copyright agreements. The technical investigation into the structure of the hard drive is not probing the actual recorded program file. That would constitute "hacker talk" and is not allowed here.

And rightly so

 

[navychop]

Yes, we do wonder how Tivo gets away with it. Or rather, wonder how long Tivo will get away with it.

 

[thowe21]

Pocket Dish was suppose to appease customers like yourself, but I don't think it was too much of a success.

 

[mobowhunter]

thowe21, it is the same thing as sending saved videos to the PocketDish but instead using a PSP. I am still trying to understand the difference copyright laws would have between the two devices.

 

[TBoneit]

It isn't the copyright that is the problem.

It is that the Video is encrypted, Breaking that encryption is illegal under the DMCA.

 

[Jared Twomey]

thowe21, it is the same thing as sending saved videos to the PocketDish but instead using a PSP. I am still trying to understand the difference copyright laws would have between the two devices.

because on the pocket dish it is still encrypted. If you had the ability to put it on your psp, what would stop you from burning to dvd, putting it online, ect.

And yes, Tivo to Go is awesome. that was the only reason I bought a Series II. How do they get away with it, I dont know, but they have for a couple years now, so I'm guessin they have some kind of deal worked out

 

[Cyclone]

Well Tivo doesn't have contracts with the networks or Studios. Dish Network does. I think that is the difference.

I bet somethings change when Comcast launches their Tivo service.

 

[Smith P.]

I don't think TiVo will recall old boxes and will implement something like CableCard or DRM.

 

[ralfyguy]

Well Tivo doesn't have contracts with the networks or Studios. Dish Network does. I think that is the difference.

I bet somethings change when Comcast launches their Tivo service.

This TIVO service is pi..ing me off! Apparently everybody BUT TIVO has to play by the rules. What is the deal with keeping them alive no matter what?

 

[adavis720]

It looks like TiVo is doing something similar to what iTunes has done with the DRM free tracks. There are no restrictions on usage - but your personal info is attached to the files, which will make you responsible for unauthorized distribution.


TiVo respects the intellectual property rights of others and we ask our users to do the same. TiVo Desktop and TiVo Desktop Plus are provided for playback of television programs on compatible portable devices solely for your personal, non-commercial use. Television programs transferred to portable devices using TiVo Desktop Plus contain information that can be used to identify the TiVo account and/or DVR from which the transfer originated. Unauthorized transfers or distribution of copyrighted works outside of your home and/or to third parties may constitute an infringement of the rights of copyright holders and subject you to penalties. Additionally, TiVo reserves the right to terminate the TiVo service features and/or accounts of users who transfer or distribute content in violation of the TiVo Service Agreement or applicable law. Click here for more information.

 

[cparker]

That sounds like a nice arrangement to me. If I could freely use recordings on MY stuff and if I'm not the sort who is going to try and pirate videos or put them on the net. I'm fine with them encoding the files with the identifier of my DVR or account. That would ease a whole LOT of stuff. I could use tehm on my other TVs, my computer could play them in my house, I could do whatever I wanted with them as long as they stayed confined to my personal collection and weren't released elsewhere or used for commercial purposes.

BUT..... (and it's a big but.....) I'm really one of those folks who DVR stuff... watch it later... and then delete it. So while it's convenient to have all this archival capability.... I'll probably never use it. I am MUCH more likely to use the EHD feature in case of a need for a receiver swap, but that's about it.

In fact, I think it would be AWESOME if you needed a receiver swap for any reason, if Dish would offer to turn on EHD so that you could save off your recorded programming and then transfer it back onto your new DVR. Then they could turn it off. I mean... activate it for FREE for the transfer and then just turn it off .... this would be great PR and I'm guessing it would be easy to implement.

CSR: "Looks like we need to replace that unit. If you have a USB hard drive I can activate that feature for 30 days so that you can transfer your recordings from your old unit onto the new one."

 

[whatchel1]

What?

All that is needed is to authorize that an EHDD (HD= HIG DEF, HDD = hard disc drive) can be moved from 1 unit to another. I believe that it is possible to do that now for up to 3 moves.

 

[Jim5506]

Files on PVR are not encrypted, just in a foreign format. No DRM problem.

Files on external HDD and Pocket Dish are encrypted.

 

[Jim S.]

Files on PVR are not encrypted, just in a foreign format. No DRM problem.

Files on external HDD and Pocket Dish are encrypted.

If they're not encrypted on the internal hard drive, why encrypt them on the external one? It can't be that hard to get files off the internal hard drive.