Commercial dish packages

TheKrell

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Is it possible for those of us with a residential account to cancel that out and go with a couple of commercial Dish packages instead?
 
Yes, I have seen it done before.

The commercial packages are garbage, especially in their public/private packages. They claim they have many choices and offer lots of small packages for less money, but you get less for paying less.

Unless you want just 1 packages, your better off with Top120.

When they had the Private Plus package, and Max View it was a good deal.
 
Wow. For whatever reason, I thought commercial packages cost MORE.
 
They sure do seem to cost more, partly because of how the packages are arranged. Want the news channels, fine but CNN and FOX are not in it, and in fact each of those are in two yet different packages. It is split like that for channels like TNT, separate from USA and A&E. Want AMC, that's in yet a another package. TLC and HGTV are in yet another package. If there happens to be a couple of packages that meets your needs, you will pay less. But it's a very different and fractured way of getting the channels you may usually watch.
Just picking a core package and four other packages costs only $8 less than the Top250, (Somewhat depending on what packages you pick) and you would get nowhere near the channels. Pick just one more package and you are over the TOP250 and still don't have all the channels. Again, the problem is how the channels are spread among the packages.
 
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Wow. For whatever reason, I thought commercial packages cost MORE.
They do.

They sure do seem to cost more, partly because of how the packages are arranged. Want the news channels, fine but CNN and FOX are not in it, and in fact each of those are in two yet different packages. It is split like that for channels like TNT, separate from USA and A&E. Want AMC, that's in yet a another package. TLC and HGTV are in yet another package. If there happens to be a couple of packages that meets your needs, you will pay less. But it's a very different and fractured way of getting the channels you may usually watch.
Just picking a core package and four other packages costs only $8 less than the Top250, (Somewhat depending on what packages you pick) and you would get nowhere near the channels. Pick just one more package and you are over the TOP250 and still don't have all the channels. Again, the problem is how the channels are spread among the packages.
You are correct sir.

They keep trying to get me to change my workplace commercial account to the new package system. Not gonna happen until we are forced to. Our bill would go up hundred$ per year. And, if we are forced to, I'd certainly consider switching us to DirecTV. ((We already have a D* account for one building.)
 
There's your a la carte packages everyone has been asking for. Sounds great until you see your favorite channels split into different groups and now you find yourself paying more for less.
 
There's your a la carte packages everyone has been asking for. Sounds great until you see your favorite channels split into different groups and now you find yourself paying more for less.

Not exactly,that is commercial pricing.I get what your saying though.The pricing wouldn't be much cheaper but,it would be somewhat less for residential.


They sure do seem to cost more, partly because of how the packages are arranged. Want the news channels, fine but CNN and FOX are not in it, and in fact each of those are in two yet different packages. It is split like that for channels like TNT, separate from USA and A&E. Want AMC, that's in yet a another package. TLC and HGTV are in yet another package. If there happens to be a couple of packages that meets your needs, you will pay less. But it's a very different and fractured way of getting the channels you may usually watch.
Just picking a core package and four other packages costs only $8 less than the Top250, (Somewhat depending on what packages you pick) and you would get nowhere near the channels. Pick just one more package and you are over the TOP250 and still don't have all the channels. Again, the problem is how the channels are spread among the packages.

Yea I agree.I made a sample package of the channels that my wife,my grandson,and myself would have to have.By the time I was finished I had added all but 2 of the bundles.The price was about the same as we pay now,even with the $30 off.The channels are scattered all over the board,not really true ala carte,just a way to get more money imo.
 
The problem is that packages are bundled by corporate parent, not by type. And, the sports channels, even RSN's, are ridiculously priced as Dish assumes they will be used by businesses such as bars and restaurants to draw customers. But, they charge the same outrageous prices for offices. The music channels are also way over-priced, as they assume retail businesses will use them for background. Also, not fair for offices.

DirecTV still has residential-type inclusive packages for commercial accounts, instead of these provider bundles, albeit at higher prices than residential. But, they too, rape their commercial subs on sports and music pricing. (At least they include RSN's, which Dish does not do.)
 
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There's your a la carte packages everyone has been asking for. Sounds great until you see your favorite channels split into different groups and now you find yourself paying more for less.
I've never believed that a la carte would result in cheaper monthly costs to a customer unless they were very, very strict about what channels they really, really wanted and were willing to give up a channel or channels. I mean, if you like ONE program on a network, be prepared to give it up 'cause once you start adding channels a, b, c, and d just to keep seeing ONE program that you like, you've defeated the purpose.
 
Dish's programming for bars is terrible. There is a reason you never see it in any bars at all especially when DirecTV has Sunday Ticket. If you were running a bar and wanted to get Dish, first you would have to get their Starter Pack which is only local channels and cost $20. Then you have to pick at least one more package which are priced at $12 and spread all ocer the place. The Learning Pack is probably one of the best values as for watched channels. Then you get into Sports, which all bars really care about since that's what most customers want to watch there. Some sports packages are as low as $12 but if you want the ESPNs in HD you have to pay a minimum of $76 and if you have an FOC more than 50 it can cost $83 or $120.

If I were running a bar with an FOC of 1-50 and had Dish these are the packages I feel I would need. Starter Pack $20, Variety A $12, Variety B $12, Variety C $12, News $12, Sports A $12, Sports B $12, ESPN HD $76,CSN Chicago $30 and Big Ten Network $40. No that is skipping out channels that I would like but wouldn't need and I'd still be paying $238 a month for TV. Don't forget any extra receiver fees also.

If you think that is high, NFL Sunday ticket for DirecTV alone is around $1000 for the season depending on your FOC.


Edit: The prices I used were off of some literature I have. Forgot that they raised some of these packages. So you may need to add some to my total but you get the point.
 
My idea.....Have both base/core packages,and ala carte.At least that way folks could have some choice to have,or not to have sports channels.I honestly think having both would attract more customers.
 
My idea.....Have both base/core packages,and ala carte.At least that way folks could have some choice to have,or not to have sports channels.I honestly think having both would attract more customers.
Yep, and also add an option for metered tiers as well. :)
 
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Dish's programming for bars is terrible. There is a reason you never see it in any bars at all especially when DirecTV has Sunday Ticket. If you were running a bar and wanted to get Dish, first you would have to get their Starter Pack which is only local channels and cost $20. Then you have to pick at least one more package which are priced at $12 and spread all ocer the place. The Learning Pack is probably one of the best values as for watched channels. Then you get into Sports, which all bars really care about since that's what most customers want to watch there. Some sports packages are as low as $12 but if you want the ESPNs in HD you have to pay a minimum of $76 and if you have an FOC more than 50 it can cost $83 or $120.

If I were running a bar with an FOC of 1-50 and had Dish these are the packages I feel I would need. Starter Pack $20, Variety A $12, Variety B $12, Variety C $12, News $12, Sports A $12, Sports B $12, ESPN HD $76,CSN Chicago $30 and Big Ten Network $40. No that is skipping out channels that I would like but wouldn't need and I'd still be paying $238 a month for TV. Don't forget any extra receiver fees also.

If you think that is high, NFL Sunday ticket for DirecTV alone is around $1000 for the season depending on your FOC.

Edit: The prices I used were off of some literature I have. Forgot that they raised some of these packages. So you may need to add some to my total but you get the point.

Your absolutely right. All the bars I sold Dish to eventually all switched to Directv.

Only thing that Dish packages are good for is if you plan to leave the tv on the same channel all the time
 
Your absolutely right. All the bars I sold Dish to eventually all switched to Directv.

Only thing that Dish packages are good for is if you plan to leave the tv on the same channel all the time

I only sold it to one bar and they switched to DirecTV after a year. Their Private programming isn't that bad though. We've done a few of those with success.
 

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