Ok smart guys heres one for ya. I put ads on craigslist often for people wanting old dishes cleared off their property. I get amazing responses Last week i went and picked up an old super dish. I already have a super dish, its one of the fiberglass channel master built ones. This one is a newer metal one with different LNBs. The linear LNB that was for 105 i believe can be taken apart and rotated to move the wave guide and from what i understand makes it a circular lnb. Looking closely at the white hockey puck on the top there are 2 lines about 45 degrees apart. one says LP and the other CP, which i assume mean linear and circular. So i went ahead and rotated it and threw it on my superdish that was at 97 and moved it over to 119/118.8 to try to see if i could get the congrats your on 118 screen. No luck, it was a really nice weekend out so i wanted to play with the dish in the yard to see if i could get some sun but i dont know where my problem is. Im sure i rotated it correctly and all but im not sure if i have it pointed wrong or if the problem is in my receiver, its also a DP LNB and i went over that last time with iceberg about how to use the bandstacked lnbs with my receiver so i dont think thats the problem. Has anyone done anything like this and have some input or should i just give up? I guess its possible that i dont have it aimed right but i am wondering if when i aim it, will it show the the sat ID in the menu?