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[ Language advisory: the pick of this week plays rock music, and overnight may contain profanity in some song lyrics. So if you are offended by strong language, best not listen to the overnight programming.]

Most of us think of video first when we think of FTA satellite reception. Of course, there are all those "radio" channels, but they are like the old furniture you have stored in the basement: you know they're there, but probably don't think about them all that much.

This week's "check it out" pick of the week is thus perhaps unexpected for being an audio-only channel. Even more unusual is that this channel carries a real over-the-air FM broadcast station on FTA. And most unusual, is it's a real gem.

The channel is KEXP Seattle (G10R@123W, 11805H/4580 FEC 3/4 APID: 114).

Not only was KEXP (under former callsign KCMU) central to the development of the "Seattle scene", it still provides much vital oxygen to talented new bands in the form of airplay.

Many college radio stations play unusual, eclectic, pre-commercial music from smaller and local bands, so there's more to it than that.

What I think KEXP has over every college station I've ever listened to, is their DJs are pretty choosy about what they play and tend to be musically involved and plugged into the music scene. There's just a surprising amount of good music going on. It seems like it's been on while I'm around the house quite a bit lately.

In a word, if you like alternative options within the broad rock world, this is one hip outfit. Like all college radio, there will be shows you probably won't care for at all, but what's amazing to me is how often their shows are good.

You can also sample the channel via streaming from their website at kexp.org.
 
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listen to it all the time :)

in fact to prevent burn in for my HDTV (since the CS5000 has a blue screen for the radio side) what I did was put KEXP in the tv side of the channel list.

What you can do is an advanced (PID) scan and put the video & PCR pid for Research channel (110) and the audio for KEXP (114) and scan

So now you will have Research video but KEXP audio and its on the TV side of the channel list :)

For those with Coolsat 4K/5K/6K where you cant do a manual pid scan heres what you do
-scan in the transponder. There are 3 video channels. (UWTV, Research and a blank one)
-go into channel edit and edit the blank channel
-change pids to 110/114/110 and save

voila...KEXP on the video side :)
 
I listen to KEXP too. My Merc II in the bedroom has an A/B switch on the audio leads. Position A pipes the sound to the TV inputs and position B goes to my Bose Wave Acoustic Music System (the big one not the clock radio). I have the remote button sequence written down with my "radio" channel numbers so I don't need to turn the TV on to listen to satellite radio. I also listen to World Radio Network and Radio Netherlands this way. I sure was bummned when Dish scrambled the audio on 119W. I really liked the jazz channel there. I'm going to get a 6' Cband setup this summer. I understand there is a lot of audio there I might like.
 
thinking out loud

When I drive, I switch between FM and CDs.
Sometimes a CD stays in the player for months.
Getting 5..10 minutes of play a day, it hardly gets old.

An MP3 player loaded with 10..12 hours would be even better.
And I mean commercials, DJ's, and all !
So, any way to capture this much programming would be useful.
I think there's another thread with that discussion, going on right now.

But, I don't have an MP3 player built into my car, so was wondering about the possibility of slicing up the day's play, into 1 hour CDs...?
Might sound silly... or might be a real nice idea.

Could use more thought... and discussion. - :eureka

Well, it's that or figure out how to get satellite radio in the car.
What a novel concept! Wonder why nobody ever thought of that before? - :D
 
When I drive, I switch between FM and CDs.
Sometimes a CD stays in the player for months.
Getting 5..10 minutes of play a day, it hardly gets old.

An MP3 player loaded with 10..12 hours would be even better.
And I mean commercials, DJ's, and all !
So, any way to capture this much programming would be useful.
I think there's another thread with that discussion, going on right now.

But, I don't have an MP3 player built into my car, so was wondering about the possibility of slicing up the day's play, into 1 hour CDs...?
Might sound silly... or might be a real nice idea.

Could use more thought... and discussion. - :eureka

Well, it's that or figure out how to get satellite radio in the car.
What a novel concept! Wonder why nobody ever thought of that before? - :D

That pointing motor would be busy when you're in motion. A plus would be, if you want your car noticed, a Ku band dish on your roof swiveling around as you drive would probably do the trick. :D

As far as MP3 in the car, I used to use an outboard MP3 player (it was actually a discman(tm) style player which had MP3 CD capabilities) and an FM transmitter. This provided the perfect SF-to-Portland run musical stimulus.

Finally carmakers are wising up and providing a jack for auxiliary audio in, if not a full-fledged iPod interface, so at least this FM-radio kludge should not be an issue with "the next car". For some reason the new CD players still don't do MP3s, at least in my new car. That one puzzles me.

You could feed your satellite output to a PC's sound card AUX input with the right cables, and run one of the several shareware MP3 recording programs to capture the audio, then dump the file on an MP3 player hooked to the FM transmitter. Record, listen on the road thru FM, get bored, repeat. ;)

It just occurred to me that you could perhaps use a DVB card and timer features to capture the stream directly. If there's a way to export that result to MP3, you might capture at higher quality, plus the timer features might make it easy to break up a day's worth of programming into hour-long pieces, so you won't be going crazy seeking hours into a huge file just to pick up where you left off. :)

The idea of splitting the content into hourlong segments is a pretty good idea...
 
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listen to it all the time :)

in fact to prevent burn in for my HDTV (since the CS5000 has a blue screen for the radio side) what I did was put KEXP in the tv side of the channel list.

What you can do is an advanced (PID) scan and put the video & PCR pid for Research channel (110) and the audio for KEXP (114) and scan

So now you will have Research video but KEXP audio and its on the TV side of the channel list :)

For those with Coolsat 4K/5K/6K where you cant do a manual pid scan heres what you do
-scan in the transponder. There are 3 video channels. (UWTV, Research and a blank one)
-go into channel edit and edit the blank channel
-change pids to 110/114/110 and save

voila...KEXP on the video side :)

That's a great idea. I went ahead and did that, but with UWTV instead, since KEXP is affilliated with UW. I figured maybe on special occasions the audio and video might synchronize for that reason, kinda like the alleged sync between a Pink Floyd album and The Wizard of Oz.... ;)
 
That pointing motor would be busy when you're in motion. A plus would be, if you want your car noticed, a Ku band dish on your roof swiveling around as you drive would probably do the trick. :D

As far as MP3 in the car, I used to use an outboard MP3 player (it was actually a discman(tm) style player which had MP3 CD capabilities) and an FM transmitter. This provided the perfect SF-to-Portland run musical stimulus.

Finally carmakers are wising up and providing a jack for auxiliary audio in, if not a full-fledged iPod interface, so at least this FM-radio kludge should not be an issue with "the next car". For some reason the new CD players still don't do MP3s, at least in my new car. That one puzzles me.

You could feed your satellite output to a PC's sound card AUX input with the right cables, and run one of the several shareware MP3 recording programs to capture the audio, then dump the file on an MP3 player hooked to the FM transmitter. Record, listen on the road thru FM, get bored, repeat. ;)

It just occurred to me that you could perhaps use a DVB card and timer features to capture the stream directly. If there's a way to export that result to MP3, you might capture at higher quality, plus the timer features might make it easy to break up a day's worth of programming into hour-long pieces, so you won't be going crazy seeking hours into a huge file just to pick up where you left off. :)

The idea of splitting the content into hourlong segments is a pretty good idea...

Or just capture straight digital with a PC DVB card.
 
That's a great idea. I went ahead and did that, but with UWTV instead, since KEXP is affilliated with UW.
UWTV likes to show some weird surgery type things and I guess when I want to listen to KEXP I don't need to see a knee ripped open and them working on it :eek:
 
Talking about KEXP got me wondering about two other radio stations on G10R. Mike Kohl has KKYK listed G10R@123W, 11799V/26660 FEC 3/4 APID: 0047 which I could recieve at one point but not any more. Can anyone else get KKYK or is it dead now? The other is RTN Radio G10R@123W, 11720V/27690 FEC 3/4 APID: 0065 I never found this station with a blind scan or TP scan.

Please share your experiences with these audio channels.

By the way KEXP had a great Blues show on Sunday morning.:)
 
The RTN radio on 11720 is on the 2nd audio track of KPBI-CA (5th channel in mux if I remember correctly). Go to KPBI and hit the language or audio button on the remote and you can select 2nd audio

I assume KKYK is on the 2nd audio track of KKYK TV station
 
The RTN radio on 11720 is on the 2nd audio track of KPBI-CA (5th channel in mux if I remember correctly). Go to KPBI and hit the language or audio button on the remote and you can select 2nd audio

I assume KKYK is on the 2nd audio track of KKYK TV station

I didn't think to look at the audio sub tracks. Thanks Iceberg!
 
If there is additonal audio options it will show if you hit the audio button

Pansats will show 2 and can scroll through them
Coolsat 5000 when you select language there will be <> around the languse (usually 1. English) if there is one
 
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