I'm not sure how many new DISH subs we have on here but has anyone gotten a 411 or two (ViP 211 is not out yet) as a new DISH sub yet? If I'm not mistaken, you can't order a 411 as a new sub through DISH, only through your retailers. I have someone on hold as we're doing their direct DISH sale install as a retailer through a special program and the customer still can't ask or specify for a 411 as their HD receiver of choice. Let me know if you were successful in getting one as a new sub. Thanks.