Any way for someone to get bitrate from HDNet?
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Unfortunately, no! After more than two years of DishHD-Lite, I had enough. Love the HD DVRs, enjoy the service...but DishHD-Lite was like sticking hot pokers in my eyeballs.
In their defense they don't have a lot to work with, HD NET is known to have less than stellar PQ to begin with for the games....
i know i dont have the most expensive hdtv but if you guys dont like the quality of the HDTV from dishnetwork, then wow your more picky than i am and im one of the most picky people that i have ever seen. i think your dish must not be alligned right or something with your tv because i think all dish hd is to die for i have never seen anything better in my life. i can just say wow, i went from a dish 500 and a 625 dvr to a dish 1000.2 with a 622 and wish i would have made the change sooner than i had because the picture quality is outstanding. I can only say find me something better.
Something tells me that this may turn into a "signal strength will produce a better picture thread"
Something tells me that this may turn into a "signal strength will produce a better picture thread"
i dont even have the greatest signal. i know my signal can get better but mine is great with what i have. could turn into you have a bad receiver and/or bad tv.
Hence the big grin.
Signal strength has nothing to do with picture quality. In the digital world, either you have a picture or you don't.
39.6 divide by 4 = 9.9 Mbps per channel. HDNET use be 13-14 Mbps when Dish had 3 mpeg2 HD channels per transponder 4 months ago or so. Charlie is probably waiting for HDNET and others to supply a mpeg4 stream so he can just pass it through, to save Dish from buying expensive mpeg4 encoders, that's what I hope.
Can't pass thru
They still have to encode the channels. Even if he is supplied w/ MPEG 4 it still has to be encoded for the sat uplink/downlink. So it can't be a simple pass thru. The are getting new encoders as available both E* & D* get them from same source so the number may have been limited to E*.
They still have to encode the channels. Even if he is supplied w/ MPEG 4 it still has to be encoded for the sat uplink/downlink. So it can't be a simple pass thru. The are getting new encoders as available both E* & D* get them from same source so the number may have been limited to E*.
One place Charlie is never "cheap" is the encoders or other factors in providing the best video and audio possible (nothing he can do about his limited bandwidth until the new sats are up). Yes, he is a known cost-cutting, frugal CEO. But that leaves him free to spend whatever it takes in the technology at Dish Network. Buying the necessary encoders is NOT the problem (chump change for Charlie); replacing all the legacy boxes is. He really does want and has and will spend the money to be competitive (at least 2 new sats this year, and more to come) and try maintain his personal--and company--mission to provide the best possible PQ and audio. It really is a matter of personal pride to him. Ergan has put together a more efficient network and company compared to his competitors, and that allows him the cash to spend on the best, state of the art equipment for his uplinks, etc. for his network. Overall, he has achieved this. Of course this is not to say that Direct TV doesn't also acquire the best encoders, etc. They have the same high technical standards, but it seems like overall, Dish still does have the best PQ, however slight the difference.
I've been told that the only reason I'm happy with Dish HD is because I only have a 720p 52" LCD. If I had a better HDTV, I would be as unhappy as everyone else.
Poor HDNET. A couple of years ago it was getting around 17 Mbps and was spectacular. Some of the best HD I've ever seen. I once recorded about 10-15 minutes each of three different movies off of HDNET and used them as my demos to show visitors how good HD could be.
Measured peak bitrates of movies on 9423 ( HDNMV ) 1440x1080 at 29.97fps at end of January:
Broken English - 17690 Kbps
Dating the Enemy - 20925 Kbps
Kramer vs. Kramer - 20721 Kbps (see a graph)
Broken English - 17690 Kbps
Dating the Enemy - 20925 Kbps
Kramer vs. Kramer - 20721 Kbps (see a graph)
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You obviously haven't had to watch any of the sabres, rangers, devils or islanders, games in MSG-SD. I pray for the sabres to be on Versus or NBC.
Those are the peaks. The average is closer to 9-10Mbps. Even people without the ability to capture and analyze the stream can estimate the bitrate by just looking at the file sizes on their DVR.
You're right, I forget to put the word. But I see 13-14 Mbps around middle and close to the end of K vs K.
4 mpeg2 feeds on one TP (with ~38meg available for video) = sucky. Until these move to mpeg4 dont expect too much from them.
