Another Thread for Help finding G10R.

[Elite09]

Hello all.

My equipment is Pansat 2800a, Star Choice 75E Dish and Quad LNB.
Location is 51.56N and 109.08W.

After an afternoon trying to find the sat, I gave up and have a fixed Star Choice 75E set at G25 (Quality 60%) and AMC4 (Quality 45%) using a 4x1 switch.

I tried and tried to get G10, but could not.

I started out locking onto Echo 9 at 121% and doing a scan and getting the Superdish screen which confirms where I was at. I have a sat finder which I use to help locat the sats. I move slightly to the west and it the finder goes crazy so i look where i am and am at G13 at 127%. I move back to the east and it goes crazy and I assume I am on G14 as nothing is coming up on the pansat. I move more to the east and back on Echo 9.

Is there a small tip that I am missing. Maybe the presets on the Pansat 2800a for G10 are not what I should be using. I should be able to lock onto it I would think. I would prefer to get my dish fixed at G10 till my motor SG2100 arrives.

Is G10 alot weaker than other sats? If I get a 60% quality on G25, is that comparable strength as G10? Is G10 lower than Echo 9 or higher? Just need some expert advice as I should be able to get this sat.

Thanks for the help.

 

[TiminMb]

Make sure your receiver is set to a live transponder on G10R. From Iceberg's post:

11805 H 4580 or 11800 V 26660

Once set to a live TP, have someone watch the receiver's signal and quality while you sweep the area with the dish. Move slow, small increments, wait for positive feedback. Use walkie talkies, cell phone or some other method to communicate if you are up on the roof.

Set your elevation as best you can, then sweep left right. If you get nothing, adjust elevation and repeat.

 

[qwert1515]

G10 is one of the weaker satellites, from the sticky thread "I need a strong transponder to aim my dish" by Iceberg you should try to aim using the following transponders, 11805 H 4580 or 11800 V 26660, I would also add 11720 V 27692, it used to be very weak but recently it is stronger than the 11800 V 26660 transponder. I entered you location information into Sadoun's "Satellite Heading Calculator" and I got these results.


Satellite 121° West
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30.5° Elevation
195.3° Azimuth (Geographic)
9.6° LNBF polarization tilt (skew) (counter-clockwise)


Satellite 123° West
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30.1° Elevation
197.8° Azimuth (Geographic)
11.1° LNBF polarization tilt (skew) (counter-clockwise)

So 123° West is a little bit lower in elevation (0.4°) and slightly to the west of 121° West.

 

[Elite09]

Thanks guys. I will try this tomorrow night as it is pouring rain right now.

 

[turbosat]

is pouring rain right now.
SEND ME SOME!!!!!!!! Dry as a desert here in N Ala.
WHat I found with G10, if you have Echo9 located, and a mark on your dish-pole to show it>all I had to do the last time was turn the dish west a fraction. And I mean fraction, about the width of the sharpie-pen mark I made for E9, and it was there.
That was with a primestar 84E, I always put a straight edge up on the mount/pole make a line for a starting point, then a mark whenever I find any sats. Its tedious yeah. Or if you have an old analog sat rec, hook it to your KU input and let the old box scan for channels as you move the dish--you'll know when u hit active channels.

 

[Mr Tony]

Sometimes on those SC dishes its easier to use sat b (the one with the 22k built in). That LNB is dead on centre whereas the other one is off centre so it can be a pain in the butt to aim. I noticed that when I used my SC 75e dish for G10. I used the sat b and it worked much easier

settings would be 10750 22k on

 

[bill190]

For this sat (G10R), I need to use all the tricks in the book!

That is to get it and get good reception even during rain.

I feel I need a 1 meter (100 cm) dish to get it good, a low noise Ku LNBF like Invacom helps, separate fixed dish (the "play" in a positioner can wreck reception on this sat), then spraying "King’s Rain Shield" on my dish helps during rain. Also I use high quality quad RG-6 with shield wires bent back over jacket before installing good quality XL compression F-connectors and blue colored high frequency connectors if there is a split/connection in the cable.

Every little bit helps with this sat.

Then it seems like I am aiming at a point in space about the size of this --> O

Very little leeway up/down, left/right to get a good signal.

So this requires accuracy to find the sat.

Accurate long/lat/elevation finder for your location...
http://www.earthtools.org

Accurate dish pointing calculator which includes your earth site elevation...
http://www.satellite-calculations.com/Satellite/lookangles.htm

Then I find the dish offset for my dish by looking up the specifications at the dish manufacturer's web site.

Then use an inclinometer to set the dish elevation (subtracting dish offset).

Then use a handheld GPS set to real heading (not magnetic) to get accurate direction to point dish. I keep walking various directions from my dish until I walk the correct heading. Then place a rock there. Then point my dish in the direction of the rock.

Then I attach my coax signal meter and crank it up to be very sensitive.
Now I have an area about the size of a ping pong ball in which I will find the sat.

Then once found, adjust sensitivity down on coax attached signal meter to get dish aimed dead center up/down and left/right. Make marks on dish elevation adjustment plates/pole where I lose the signal up/down and left/right, then leave dish in the center of these marks. (So it is dead center in the "O".)