Jay, I support you, and agree with you. I think the purpose of this forum is enhance all of our enjoyment of the product. When we question the product, comment on the PQ, we're hopefully creating awareness of the problems so others can see and then together we can make ourselves heard by Voom. We're not hurting voom by complaining, and if others tire of our complaing, then avert your eyes. This forum, not that corporate schil of a forum on Yahoo, was the genesis of outrage over the PQ issues which began a couple of weeks ago. I believe our dialouge expedited the acknowledgement of a problem by Voom. To solve the current discord I propose a GeneWildersHair vs. Vurbano steel cage death match