4K video using only 6 MHz wide!!

[N5XZS]

Only in South Korea using 4,000 video lines with just taking just 6 MHz wide cool or what!!

http://www.tvtechnology.com/insight/0083/reviewing-next-generation-error-correction-codes/217512

Everything going Star Trek baby!!

 

[Tron]

While 4k is very cool in principle, it has issues in the real world of consumer electronics. How are you going to collect programming in this format? Blu-Ray isn't capable of storing enough for 4k features. Consumers are having enough trouble seeing the difference between DVD and HD Blu-Ray. The difference between 1080p and 4k is much harder to see on a 60-inch monitor.

The one function of a 4k panel that is very useful is the ability to simultaneously display two full-HD 1080p frames. This allows full HD 3D to be displayed using passive optical technology instead of alternating the left and right eye views and using active glasses. I saw a 4k display at Best Buy last week being used to play back Blu-Ray 3D passively. Best 3D I've ever seen... I was mesmerized.

 

[N5XZS]

Tron,

I don't care for 3D stuff, but I know 1080p way much better than 1080i and someday I will try to see 4,000p display.:

I wonder if FTA HD receiver can be upgrade to 4,000p video mode on KU band?

 

[navychop]

They showed BD-100 prototypes years ago, and maybe even larger ones. Should not be long before specs are finalized.


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[Xizer]

While 4k is very cool in principle, it has issues in the real world of consumer electronics. How are you going to collect programming in this format? Blu-Ray isn't capable of storing enough for 4k features. Consumers are having enough trouble seeing the difference between DVD and HD Blu-Ray. The difference between 1080p and 4k is much harder to see on a 60-inch monitor.

This is what new formats and the Internet are for. Bring on Blu-ray 4K.

Verizon FiOS and cable providers have more than enough bandwidth to allow for 4K streaming. It's all about getting a provider like Netflix to stop catering to the lowest common denominator. You could have four simultaneous 4K Internet streams going on a 150 Mbps Verizon FiOS connection.

The one function of a 4k panel that is very useful is the ability to simultaneously display two full-HD 1080p frames. This allows full HD 3D to be displayed using passive optical technology instead of alternating the left and right eye views and using active glasses. I saw a 4k display at Best Buy last week being used to play back Blu-Ray 3D passively. Best 3D I've ever seen... I was mesmerized.

Forget that. I can't stand passive with its stupid black bars running through the picture. Bring on 4K 3D!

I don't care for 3D stuff, but I know 1080p way much better than 1080i and someday I will try to see 4,000p display.:

No it ain't. 1080i video is identical to 1080p when de-interlaced.

 

[madmadworld]

Consumers are having enough trouble seeing the difference between DVD and HD Blu-Ray. The difference between 1080p and 4k is much harder to see on a 60-inch monitor.

would have thought dvd's would be near gone today in 2005 but there they are

I saw a 4k display at Best Buy last week being used to play back Blu-Ray 3D passively. Best 3D I've ever seen... I was mesmerized.

ok going to go look it over
thanks

It's all about getting a provider like Netflix to stop catering to the lowest common denominator.

so true

 

[Tron]

They showed BD-100 prototypes years ago, and maybe even larger ones. Should not be long before specs are finalized.

BD-100 is known as BDXL, and is available today. However, I believe a 4k feature would require more space than 100GB.

Forget that. I can't stand passive with its stupid black bars running through the picture. Bring on 4K 3D!

The lines on a 4k display are so fine that I could not see the black lines unless I was about two feet from the screen. Far better than passive on a 1080p panel. What I did notice, however, was more crosstalk than I was hoping for. The first generation 1080p FPR panels had plenty of crosstalk as well, which was almost entirely corrected with the second generation.

 

[Blindowl1234]

Let's see 10 years from now when the prices are the price of a typical HD set today maybe I'll nibble. But, there's gonna have to be a lot of content too. I'm usually an early adopter but I'm not in any hurry this time.

 

[Xizer]

4K TVs are already just $1,400. http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00BXF7I9M/?tag=satell01-20

 

[Stargazer]

I don't know if I would trust a Seiki. Sounds like a knockoff brand. It does prove that they can be made cheap though.

 

[Xizer]

They all come from the same Chinese factories.

The Seiki TV is very good quality. Its downfall: only has HDMI 1.4 ports, making it utterly worthless (just like all other 4K TVs currently on the market)

Only DisplayPort and Dual Link DVI have enough bandwidth to handle 4K @ 60 Hz... but of course all the 4K TV manufacturers so far are complete morons who refuse to put a single DisplayPort input on their fancy new TV that costs thousands of dollars... instead restricting us all to the pathetic HDMI 1.4 standard which can only do 4K @ 30 Hz. Completely unacceptable for stuff like PC gaming, which of course is the biggest source of 4K content right now and should be for the years to come... all 4K TVs are worthless until they include input methods that can do 4K higher than 30 Hz.

The irritating thing about this insistence by the TV manufacturers on locking us all into the HDMI standard... is that it would cost them basically nothing to also include a DisplayPort on their TVs... DisplayPort is a royalty-free, open standard, whereas HDMI is proprietary and requires a license fee for every HDMI port included on a display. It looks like they are going to force us to wait until HDMI 2.0 until we get a proper 4K TV... which means either fall of this year, or more likely, 2014.

I can't wait to get into PC gaming @ 4K, and I would have jumped on that Seiki TV if it had a DisplayPort, but because of this stupid design, I refuse, and they have lost a sale. That thing has a VGA and a composite input, FFS. Who are these early adopters jumping on 4K TVs to hook up a composite video device to them?! DITCH the composite and VGA inputs and put a proper input like DisplayPort that can actually take advantage of your TV!

 

[ChrisW6ATV]

While 4k is very cool in principle, it has issues in the real world of consumer electronics... The difference between 1080p and 4k is much harder to see on a 60-inch monitor.

I have seen the Sony 65" 4K display at Fry's stores here, and while it does indeed look very nice, you have to be no more than about three feet from the screen to see the difference in resolution. Relatively few people even today sit close enough to their 1080p displays to see that full resolution. If 4K succeeds as a consumer format, it will do so because of marketing, not because average people see a need for the improvement.