How do you go about hooking up a Cband dish and a KU band dish on the same receiver? Diseqc switch, 22hz switch... What are the different ways and pro/cons to those different ways...
2 dishes, 1 receiver
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you can use either method - look at this section:
http://www.satelliteguys.us/xen/threads/switch-setups-simplified.134124
Bob
http://www.satelliteguys.us/xen/threads/switch-setups-simplified.134124
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Okay, well, in reality, this isn't working for me. I have a situation where i want to control multiple buds with motors on both of them from one receiver, or even multiple receivers. I have a 4x8 multiswitch. Problem with that, it doesnt seem to pass through motor control signals for USALS?? I next tried a 22khz switch, and no mater whether the tone is on/off, it sends the USALS motor signal through both outputs... Huh?!!?? The diseqc switch doesn't seem to work either. How do i get it to control one motor over another??
Some switches pass 22KHz/DiSEqC commands others block. You PM'ed me with the same question, so you might reply to these questions:
How is the 5x8 switch wired? What are the receiver menu settings for a specific motorized satellite where the motor will not respond?
Correct, the Ecoda 22KHz switch sends commands down both legs at all times. What do you want to do (or control) with the Ecoda 22KHz switch?
To control two hh DiSEqC motors with the 22KHz switch, program one motor to be controlled with Odd DiSEqC 1.2 commands and the other motor to be controlled via Even DiSEqC 1.2 commands. If connecting to a C-band controller like the ASC1 or G/VBox, control it with DiSEqC 1.2 and the hh DiSEqC motor with USALS.
How is the 5x8 switch wired? What are the receiver menu settings for a specific motorized satellite where the motor will not respond?
Correct, the Ecoda 22KHz switch sends commands down both legs at all times. What do you want to do (or control) with the Ecoda 22KHz switch?
To control two hh DiSEqC motors with the 22KHz switch, program one motor to be controlled with Odd DiSEqC 1.2 commands and the other motor to be controlled via Even DiSEqC 1.2 commands. If connecting to a C-band controller like the ASC1 or G/VBox, control it with DiSEqC 1.2 and the hh DiSEqC motor with USALS.
Regarding the ecodo, I just had the switch. Thought id try it.
As for the Aspen - I wired it as you suggested. I had the receiver plugged into the receiver plug. I had the multi-switch powered and i had the 22khz off with 18v goto the motor and through to the LNB. the 22khz off with 13v went straight to the LNB. The lnb is a GeoSatPro PLL2. In the satellite configure, i had 22khz off and i tried on LNB power (auto and 13 volt and 18 volt). I was unable to control the motor. I was able to get signal though on the satellite it was positioned on.
As for the Aspen - I wired it as you suggested. I had the receiver plugged into the receiver plug. I had the multi-switch powered and i had the 22khz off with 18v goto the motor and through to the LNB. the 22khz off with 13v went straight to the LNB. The lnb is a GeoSatPro PLL2. In the satellite configure, i had 22khz off and i tried on LNB power (auto and 13 volt and 18 volt). I was unable to control the motor. I was able to get signal though on the satellite it was positioned on.
What do you mean by program one motor to be controlled with Odd and Even commands? I have two Stab HH120's, and i'm soon to be adding a Cband with your ASC1 controller.
Program mover 1 even #'s memory positions, leaving the odd unprogrammed. Program Odd memory positions on the other leaving the even unprogrammed.
receiver---mover one--mover two---usals motor--switch to LNBF's.
Only downside I see is the added loss thru a second mover.
receiver---mover one--mover two---usals motor--switch to LNBF's.
Only downside I see is the added loss thru a second mover.
Does this mean i cannot use USALS? I'm sorry, I'm starting to feel like i need to take Diseqc 101. Are you saying in the receiver, where you save the satellite positions - not using usals - you save the individual locations to those location #s... Do i have to hook up the receiver to one dish then the other?
two BUDS and a Ku on a motor run by one receiver. Hooked up as repeated here: receiver---(BUD)mover one--(BUD)mover two---usals motor--switch-- to LNBF's.
The 'movers' have 99 programmable 'locations'. Program even locations in one, odd in the other. (The programmable 'locations' can be any satellite position)
The BUD movers use DiSeqC, the Ku is moved via USALS.
But then you state:
So I'm a bit confused. Plz clarify: 2 motorized Ku, and a BUD or 2 BUDs and a Ku on a motor? Or is it 2 and 2?
Right now i have two KU dishes, both with their own motor. I will soon be also adding a Cband dish BUD.
However, right this minute, I am trying to make my receiver control the two KU dishes. So, if i understand you correctly, i need to hookup the receiver to KU#1, save all the satellite positions on the individual satellites to EVEN numbers. Then disconnect KU#1, and plugin KU#2 and save all the satellite positions to ODD numbers. Then i can plug in both dishes.
How can i work that into a multi switch so that i can add multiple receivers into the mix?
So, being the 5x8 switch isn't passing the DiSeqC commands, how do i get that multiswitch into the mix?
Try another brand/model multi-switch that passes 22KHz/DiSEqC signals. Maybe a Spaun brand switch? http://www.spaun.de/?modul=home Contact the manufacture to confirm the pass-through if the spec sheet doesn't confirm. They aren't cheap, but they are some of the best.
Like I had suggested in your previous thread, multiple motorized dishes shared between multiple receivers is problematic. Finding a compatible multi-switch that passes 22KHz/DiSEqC will be the first hurdle. Please share your findings for other members that may want to try this complex set-up.
Like I had suggested in your previous thread, multiple motorized dishes shared between multiple receivers is problematic. Finding a compatible multi-switch that passes 22KHz/DiSEqC will be the first hurdle. Please share your findings for other members that may want to try this complex set-up.
I thought i would post what i ended up doing to get this to work. Right now, i have 3 dishes, working off one receiver. 1 10 foot cband, and two 1.2 meter KU dishes. My plans this spring are to hook the 1.2 KU with the Amiko Switch to work in a multi receiver situation.
Ps. I want to THANK all the great people on SatelliteGuys who have helped me and others, and who participate in this great hobby.
Ps. I want to THANK all the great people on SatelliteGuys who have helped me and others, and who participate in this great hobby.
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I don't exactly know what you want to do, but what about using diseqc in a parallel way instead of serial (cascading)? And thus "splitting" the diseqc signals?
See for instance this astonishing (and inspiring!) example:
https://www.satellites.co.uk/forums/threads/diseqc-1-1-16x1-gecen-gd-1601a.162700/#post-899897
For multiple receivers, you need a chain of sat priority switches, I would think. I don't see that that could work with a multi-switch because of conflict in control.
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