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  1. nelson61

    Left Dish

    Of course. Everything has blended and you need to keep current on all of it.
  2. nelson61

    Left Dish

    Been there many years but now have closed the worm hole
  3. nelson61

    Left Dish

    I've become a statistic. After 30 years and 5 months of standby service, I canceled. Service has been excellent and you will find nothing better than the Hopper 3. We just found we were streaming essentially every thing we like. British, European, Australian, New Zealand crime shows along with...
  4. nelson61

    DIRECTV Announces Termination of Agreement

    Because the Dish satellite business is still a good business that will be making money for many more years
  5. nelson61

    DIRECTV Announces Termination of Agreement

    while digging through the financial notes, --- EchoStar reported the current progress payments for their new satellite under construction - As of end of 3rd quarter - around 95 million dollars.
  6. nelson61

    DIRECTV Announces Termination of Agreement

    They do not have to nor probably intend to turn it around. They made their purchase after projecting the loss in subscribers over the number of years they expect to keep the business, did the numbers as to how much money they would net over those years, and then assigned a purchase price that...
  7. nelson61

    Merger could be terminated November 22nd

    A good summary of the the bondholder battle summary can be seen here. This article was generated back when it was in the New York courts. Since then litigation has been moved to the federal court system. Anyone wanting to follow the lawsuit filings, rulings, etc. (in progress) can find it in...
  8. nelson61

    DIRECTV Announces Termination of Agreement

    TPG is not in the TV business, they are in the "money" business. In the Directv case as well as the proposed Dish deal, they do the numbers, and may buy a business that is losing customers based on the $$$ that will flow through to them over the expected life of the business if their investment...
  9. nelson61

    DIRECTV Announces Termination of Agreement

    Bloomberg: EchoStar confirmed in a filing on Friday that it had received written notice from DirecTV on Nov. 20. It added no termination fee or other payment is due from either party as a result.
  10. nelson61

    Dish 3rd Quarter 2024

    Update on 61.5 W satellites this wee (from FCC filings) "EchoStar uses EchoStar 16 to provide service to consumers" (at 61.5W) "with EchoStar 15 and 18 currently serving as in-orbit spares."
  11. nelson61

    Deal is dead... ?

    I can just about guarantee that if Dish were spun off and went into bankruptcy, the federal bankruptcy judge would beat up on the bondholders. First thing the judge would say is those millions of subscribers are not going to lose their service Next he/she would say EchoStar valued the business...
  12. nelson61

    Dish 3rd Quarter 2024

    Have no idea what happened. Deleted graph and regenerated and scaling is now correct.
  13. nelson61

    Deal is dead... ?

    The TPG deal is no different than many other proposed acquisitions that (might) fail to complete for various reasons. You can go back and watch deal after failed deal where millions to billions are put up as a commitment to buy with a provision the money is lost if the deal does not go through...
  14. nelson61

    Merger could be terminated November 22nd

    I think you meant to say the bondholders are secured and the stockholders unsecured.
  15. nelson61

    Merger could be terminated November 22nd

    Bloomberg this week says they are close to moving away from MVNO since their network area has increased dramatically in the past year.
  16. nelson61

    Merger could be terminated November 22nd

    Cell service has evolved into a classic oligopoly. A few players essentially have all the customers. In an oligopoly, when one cuts price, the others follow and nothing changes excepting they all make less money If one increases prices, the others all keep prices constant, figuring they the...
  17. nelson61

    Bondholders Reject Deal

    So long as they get their scheduled bond payments, they have little say in how things proceed. And as Echostar stated, they now only have 139 million in outstanding debt that has to be retired in 2024 and 2025.
  18. nelson61

    Dish 3rd Quarter 2024

    It is not an illusion. Excel made it and if you are an excel user, you understand that the Excel graphs system automatically normalizes the date scale for a data set . Historical data is from annual reports while the more recent includes the quarterly.
  19. nelson61

    Dish 3rd Quarter 2024

    Nimiq 5 lease has been extended to October 2029 EchoStar 25 construction contract continues "Satellite Under Construction EchoStar XXV. On March 20, 2023, we entered into a contract with Maxar Space LLC for the construction of EchoStar XXV, a DBS satellite that is capable of providing service...
  20. nelson61

    Dish 3rd Quarter 2024

    Satellite TV is stabilizing quite well. Good for DIRECTV's acquisition strategy.
  21. nelson61

    Dish 3rd Quarter 2024

    The full SEC 10Q filing https://www.sec.gov/cgi-bin/viewer?action=view&cik=1415404&accession_number=0001558370-24-015122&xbrl_type=v
  22. nelson61

    Dish /Direct Merger Hits A Roadblock

    As I had posted much earlier, there would be much howling and threats and yelling but the best deal for the creditors was to take the deal and move foreward. And that is close to what happened
  23. nelson61

    Bondholders Reject Deal

    But, Charlie and his team have pulled it off again and are good to go for several more years. https://ir.echostar.com/news-releases/news-release-details/echostar-corporation-announces-successful-completion-various 'The repayment in full of the November 2024 DDBS maturity similarly enhances...
  24. nelson61

    Looks like It’s official Directv Buying Dish

    Day late ? As the years go by and the CABLED fiber optic network extends to essentially all the population, starlink will become a niche player in the US market.
  25. nelson61

    Echostar 3rd Quarter Conference call

    Why launch satellites or build new set boxes when you already have the best box on the market and have redundant satellite capacity available? They did launch one new satellite in 2023 for broadband service and have a tv one under construction for launch in 2026.
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