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how can you put a price on vapor-ware? oh wait can you give me a price on that D* pc card? that would make the HMC a paper weight. or how about some wifi from E* and D* http://www.engadget.com/2006/01/30/directv-and-echostar-bringing-wimax-service-to-us/

Yes, you said it your self, "I need my locals in HD". which is only in mpeg4. the HR10-250 box is mpeg2, TIVO software based and non-interactive. D* dropped TIVO sometime ago, so that box will never get updated and soon be unsupported. and yet they still sell it. the H20 box is mpeg4, but...

do you have a HDTV? I do, 2 year old 80" 16x9 and love it. now when you go in to buy a new TV at lease 80% are HDTV's, right? and that is what people have bought in the past year. so do you think someone is going to cough up $500 up-front for a HD/DVR on a lease with a 2 year commitment and a...

yea, try cable. those rebate's are good til 7-1-06, wait til then and see if D* pulls their head out of their butt and see's all of the customers they lost, both new and old.

the whole thing stinks, E* should have been left alone to die with the lease model, D* would have come out ahead and not two step's back. as for us owning are own equipment, big deal. its all out dated junk and I don't think we will get upgraded for free, and now with a 2 year commitment...