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dishfan82 said:
With all these increases Dish, directv, Comcast are eventually going to lose a good core of their subscribers in the next 2-3 years . Sure each year they lose subscribers and new ones come in but eventually more will leave and the new number of subscribers will be way down.

My grandpa is a prime example of a customer of AT&T who pays full price for his tv package and never bothers to call in and ask for a discount and they love him bc of that. Maybe if it wasn’t $30-40 in fees added onto the bill for DVR fee, whole home fee etc they wouldn’t be losing so many a year.
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I can agree on that. DVR fees were ok 10 years ago when not so many people wanted/needed them. Now it’s standard to get a DVR and Whole Home Service it shouldn’t cost extra. I could see it being where they would have a minimum package requirement of one of the AT packages and if someone is on flex, welcome, smart, or Dish America the default would be a Wally or a Hopper for the additional charge (being those are aimed towards people on a budget).
 
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littlecloud319 said:
I can agree on that. DVR fees were ok 10 years ago when not so many people wanted/needed them. Now it’s standard to get a DVR and Whole Home Service it shouldn’t cost extra. I could see it being where they would have a minimum package requirement of one of the AT packages and if someone is on flex, welcome, smart, or Dish America the default would be a Wally or a Hopper for the additional charge (being those are aimed towards people on a budget).
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Kind of how unlimited minutes became standard with cell phones... about the time that pricing went from $20 per line to $50-$100?

The fees would still be paid, they’d just be subsidized by those that wanted to save money and do not care about additional services. Some people have a 211 and welcome pack and are happy with that.
 
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ChadT41 said:
Kind of how unlimited minutes became standard with cell phones... about the time that pricing went from $20 per line to $50-$100?

The fees would still be paid, they’d just be subsidized by those that wanted to save money and do not care about additional services. Some people have a 211 and welcome pack and are happy with that.
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Exactly. They have to recover the equipment cost somehow. I was shocked that cell phone companies subsidized phones for as long as they did. Today's model of paying full price of your phone in monthly installments makes a lot more sense for both the companies and the customer. There is no such thing as a free lunch.
 
dishfan82 said:
With all these increases Dish, directv, Comcast are eventually going to lose a good core of their subscribers in the next 2-3 years . Sure each year they lose subscribers and new ones come in but eventually more will leave and the new number of subscribers will be way down.

My grandpa is a prime example of a customer of AT&T who pays full price for his tv package and never bothers to call in and ask for a discount and they love him bc of that. Maybe if it wasn’t $30-40 in fees added onto the bill for DVR fee, whole home fee etc they wouldn’t be losing so many a year.
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I’ve said the same thing for years. The FEES are killing off the satellite and cable subs one sub at a time. When you pay more in monthly fees than you pay for basic programming there is a problem. That is why online ott companies are doing better than traditional sat./cable models.They don’t charge outlet fees and huge whole house or Dvr fees. The younger generations of consumers won’t pay those fees.
 
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MikeD-C05 said:
I’ve said the same thing for years. The FEES are killing off the satellite and cable subs one sub at a time. When you pay more in monthly fees than you pay for basic programming there is a problem. That is why online ott companies are doing better than traditional sat./cable models.They don’t charge outlet fees and huge whole house or Dvr fees. The younger generations of consumers won’t pay those fees.
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OTT streamers don't have equipment to furnish and maintain (set-top boxes, DVR's, satellite dishes etc)
 
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For anyone who’s interested.. I just chatted with an agent from Dish. They told me that the price hikes wouldn’t affect anyone with a price lock even after it expires. I asked him if it would affect me in 3 months after my price lock and contract expired and he said no it wouldn’t. I’m not sure if I buy that, but there you go.
 
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dolfan3033 said:
For anyone who’s interested.. I just chatted with an agent from Dish. They told me that the price hikes wouldn’t affect anyone with a price lock even after it expires. I asked him if it would affect me in 3 months after my price lock and contract expired and he said no it wouldn’t. I’m not sure if I buy that, but there you go.
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Their trained to say whatever makes you happy. I’m sure after ones price lock expires their price will go up. Unless maybe they’ll make a deal if you sign a new contract.
 
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littlecloud319 said:
Their trained to say whatever makes you happy. I’m sure after ones price lock expires their price will go up. Unless maybe they’ll make a deal if you sign a new contract.
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That’s what I’m thinking. They said it in such a convincing way like they’ve been asked before. However, guaranteeing a price forever doesn’t pass the smell test with me.. told her I’d hold him to that and to notate the account. We’ll see! Trying a month of PS Vue just in case.
 
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dolfan3033 said:
For anyone who’s interested.. I just chatted with an agent from Dish. They told me that the price hikes wouldn’t affect anyone with a price lock even after it expires. I asked him if it would affect me in 3 months after my price lock and contract expired and he said no it wouldn’t. I’m not sure if I buy that, but there you go.
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The price will go up when your contract expires. That's how it works why would anyone think differently?
 
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Tampa8 said:
The price will go up when your contract expires. That's how it works why would anyone think differently?
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I wanted to chat because my bill was poised to go up 40 bucks. I was inquiring about how it would affect my bill. The rep offered that it wouldn’t affect me. I don’t believe it but wanted to post what I was told by Dish.

Im talking specifically about the jump in regular prices from 74.99 to 89.99 next year. Understand that I have new customer discounts on top of that which I expect to loose. I’m not talking about the discounts going away.

Either the rep is misinformed, or lied, in saying that the price hike that’s coming won’t affect me.. which means my bill will only go up 15.. (total from my new customer promos going away)
 
Maybe this will make what I am saying clearer? Look at your agreement see if you see this.
"Upon the expiration of your Price Guarantee Period, you will pay the then-current price for your programming package."
 
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dolfan3033 said:
I wanted to chat because my bill was poised to go up 40 bucks. I was inquiring about how it would affect my bill. The rep offered that it wouldn’t affect me. I don’t believe it but wanted to post what I was told by Dish.

Im talking specifically about the jump in regular prices from 74.99 to 89.99 next year. Understand that I have new customer discounts on top of that which I expect to loose. I’m not talking about the discounts going away.

Either the rep is misinformed, or lied, in saying that the price hike that’s coming won’t affect me.. which means my bill will only go up 15.. (total from my new customer promos going away)
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What package's regular price is going up $15?
 
And just another FYI. Supposedly they're going to have the new Duo Smart HD DVR with Top 120 and DVR fee for $59.99 for 2 years for new customers. They allude to the fact that the DVR fee with this new receiver will be $5, at least for the first 2 years.
 
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I'm still wondering why dolfan3033 says his package is going up $15.
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Simple math. He was getting the old promo rate ($74.99) and he is looking at the chart to see what his rate will be after the promo expires ($89.99). The loss of the $10.00 discount, combined with the total of $5.00 in increases, equals a $15.00 increase.
 
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