Finally found a 10' dish!!

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After looking for about two years I've finally found a 10' dish! It's a SAMI (actually 10' 3") with a Von Weise actuator. My wife and I spotted it just off a country road near a wooded area. Nobody was home so we wrote down the address to look up later. Turns out the dish belonged to the father, of the husband, of our kids former school secretary and it's been standing unused beside the woods at their home for many years. They said just stop by anytime to get it. When my wife and I went to check it out we found the dish was leaning badly - and we had some company checking us out.

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We decided to go back the next day to take it down and arrived just after 7:00am. I'm very glad it was next to the woods. We have had some of the warmest days of the year so far and with our health issues we both really mind the heat. The trees kept us mostly in the shade although that didn't stop the humidity (or the bugs from eating us :rolleyes:). I removed the bolt holding the actuator to the dish, then removed the four reflector bolts from the ring. Although rusty, they were in pretty good shape after having been exposed all those years and none of them snapped. We lowered the reflector to the ground then carefully rolled it up the hill to my truck. It was less than 10 miles to home so I decided to keep it intact. We loaded it on the truck and I used a ratcheting tie down and some rope to gently secure it for the trip.

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The second bolt for the actuator was a bear to break loose but it finally gave. I figured we'd have a time getting the mount and ring off the pole but once I loosened the bolts it easily turned and slid right off. That left the pole. Even in the shade it was getting pretty hot. I thought we would have to come back for it but I gave it a push and it moved, so I pushed in the opposite direction and it snapped right off at the base. Except for the very bottom it appears to be solid and should be long enough to reuse.

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Given the amount of weight on the pole and the ease with which it snapped I know the dish wouldn't have been standing much longer if we hadn't taken it down when we did. There are a few small slits in the mesh that will need repaired and it's covered with moss so it will need a really good cleaning but it looks to be in nice shape. I haven't tested the actuator yet. I will post more pics once I clean everything up. My wife used to question the need for 'all those dishes' but she was a great help to me in this endeavor. I don't think she loves the hobby like I do but she's coming along. Overall, it was a great day! :)
 
Great find! Pressure washing will go a long way toward making that baby shine.I like to swing by the car wash on the way home if possible.

Hopefully that Von Weise is still good..save ya some money. :thumbup

Don't forget some 'after' pics.
 
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SAVED! In the 'nick' 'o time.
Great Find. Know you're gonna love it, the wife to.
Yes, definitely wouldn't have been long and I forgot to mention in my post that he was thinking about taking it down some time this summer for scrap. :eek: Glad I was able to get it in time! :)
 
Glad to see one get saved liked that.
 
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Great find! Pressure washing will go a long way toward making that baby shine.
I just got a used one. Should clean it up nice. :bath

Hopefully that Von Weise is still good..save ya some money. :thumbup
Definitely would be a plus as good actuators aren't cheap.

Don't forget some 'after' pics.
DITTO on that!
Yup, we'll be waiting for more, after, pictures

Will do! :)
 
Want to see some during the progress photos too. I should have took some of my last rescue during the cleanup process.

....hmmm I don't think I ever posted pics of the finished product. I'll have to do that later.
 
I thought we would have to come back for it but I gave it a push and it moved, so I pushed in the opposite direction and it snapped right off at the base. Except for the very bottom it appears to be solid and should be long enough to reuse.

I'm wary of those old poles...I've seen several that were almost rusted away at ground level.I would not trust the bottom foot or so. Over-lap another pipe one size larger on the bottom and weld them together...even if you don't need the extra length.Makes it much more solid.Might be over-kill..but I don't plan to replace my pole when I'm an old man. ;)

Another thing I have noticed on the old pipes: Even ones that don't seem rusted badly have a lot of sway on them if you slap the top of the pole with your hand.Metal fatigue I guess?
 
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I'm wary of those old poles...I've seen several that were almost rusted away at ground level.I would not trust the bottom foot or so. Over-lap another pipe one size larger on the bottom and weld them together...even if you don't need the extra length.Makes it much more solid.Might be over-kill..but I don't plan to replace my pole when I'm an old man. ;)

Another thing I have noticed on the old pipes: Even ones that don't seem rusted badly have a lot of sway on them if you slap the top of the pole with your hand.Metal fatigue I guess?
I will check it out carefully - don't want to see it come crashing to the ground here. :eek:
 
Glad you found one. Maybe I will get lucky and find a 10 footer here one of these days. I thought I had earlier, but it was another 8 footer. Got it down and need to start on refurbing it, but haven't taken time yet. Probably should hurry up, as summer will be over before I know it.

I also bet I know which dish it will replace. :)
 
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That dish was listing pretty good... Congratulations on the rescue! :hatsoff2

The reflector looks to be in very nice condition, definitely post progress photos. I have a 10' SAMI; hopefully you'll be as pleased with yours as I am with mine!
 
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That dish was listing pretty good... Congratulations on the rescue! :hatsoff2

The reflector looks to be in very nice condition, definitely post progress photos. I have a 10' SAMI; hopefully you'll be as pleased with yours as I am with mine!
Thanks! Yes, thinking about it I'm really surprised it stood up to all the tugging I did with the socket wrench. :rolleyes: I will post more pics as things progress. :)
 
UPDATE: I've been doing some work on this dish off and on over the past week and a half. First, I got the reflector cleaned up. That lichen/moss was imbedded through the holes of the dish and attached to both sides of the mesh like armor. I tried the pressure washer on it and it wouldn't budge. I finally used the round edge of a funnel to slice it off so I didn't damage the mesh, then used the pressure washer to finish the job. Once I could actually see the mesh I found about a half dozen small tears (3" or less, easily fixable) along with some dents that will need worked out. Here are before and after pics of the dish cleaning and work I have completed so far. (all thumbnailed - click for larger image)

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On to the actuator. It is a Von Weise model VW-18LC. 36VDC, 3A. I had hoped it would function without a lot of tinkering but when I connected power it just kinda groaned and wouldn't move. Well, at least that meant the motor was probably still good. I tried to remove the weather boot but it was really on there. I finally worked it loose and when it came off I got a surprise - a lap full of black ants. There must have been over 50 of them running all over the place. This thing had sat in my garage for several days plus all the prying I did to remove that cover and I hadn't seen a sign of ants until I got the weather boot off. Well, I took care of that problem then started on the actuator. I removed the outer rear plastic cover for the wiring connections and everything inside looked good.

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Next I removed the six bolts covering the gears - looked good in there as well.

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Grease was not hard but just to be sure I added a little fresh lithium grease.

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I put the two covers back on. Going ok so far. Then I removed the two small bolts holding the actuator arm to the motor assembly. When I pulled it apart this is what I found inside.

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It looked pretty bad but I didn't want to give up if there was a chance. Out came the wire wheel for my drill, WD-40 and a stiff wire brush. After quite a bit of elbow grease it cleaned up fairly well and I found it was still usable.

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I polished the outside of the large tube with plumbers abrasive cloth (http://www.homedepot.com/p/Oatey-1-1-2-in-x-2-Yard-Plumbers-Abrasive-Cloth-Roll-314112/100346540) but wondered how I was going to clean the inside. I came up with this tool - a combination of a 2" cup brush and several 1/4" socket extensions taped together.

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I put my 'creation' in the drill, carefully pushed the brush into the tube and powered up. Slow but sure the rust and crud came loose! It may not be pretty but it got the job done. I sprayed the inside with WD-40 and wrapped an old sock around a piece of rod to clean it out.

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I also used plumbers abrasive cloth polish up the motor casing and the inner tube.

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I wiped the parts clean, greased the threaded rod & tube and reassembled everything.

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A quick test showed my hard work had payed off. I cleaned up the bracket and gave everything a nice paint job

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Here is an animated GIF of the actuator in action (thumbnailed - click to watch).

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Off to a good start! Next up: Fix the mesh, refurbish the dish ring, check out the pole. Will post back when I make more progress. :)
 
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What a great story FTA4PA. I like your photos on the pickup and rehabbing of the dish and it's actuator, a great restoration story. Interesting that lichens can grow on a dish; but if they can grow on roofs and rocks heck they can grow anywhere. Did a great job of cleaning up the dish as the before and after show a huge difference. Must have been rewarding to take an old dish and bring it back to life. Thanks for sharing.
 
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What a great story FTA4PA. I like your photos on the pickup and rehabbing of the dish and it's actuator, a great restoration story. Interesting that lichens can grow on a dish; but if they can grow on roofs and rocks heck they can grow anywhere. Did a great job of cleaning up the dish as the before and after show a huge difference. Must have been rewarding to take an old dish and bring it back to life. Thanks for sharing.
Yes, that stuff was really on there - they should make adhesive out of it! :D Thanks for the encouragement! It's sad to see one rusting away when it could be put to good use. I do enjoy working on them and getting them back into service. :)
 
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